I’m in a major horse training funk. I got Dobbin in 2004. He was a mess. I don’t have a complete history, but from what I know he was definitely abused (old rope scars, etc.) and terrified of whips and most everything else, started very young (say about 2 yo) by people who knew nothing about horses, sold and started again around 3 after he was gelded (saddle plopped on and 9 inch shank bit), ridden in a harsh-handed, ventroflexed forced rackish-gait (extremely confused about his gaits when I got him), ridden in a pack horse fashion on trails by different inexperienced riders, fell more than once with riders, malnourished, upside down neck, stifle problem, couldn’t walk a straight line, couldn’t turn, slab-sided, high-headed with a rock mouth, no conceivable whoa to speak of…I hope I’m giving the right details.
Once I got him and realized the extent of his problems, I wiped the slate clean and started him over from the ground up as if he’d never been started before. I spent over 1-1/2 years the first time retraining, with professional help as needed. He learned to lunge (would run full speed backwards, spook, drag the handler across the ring, hide his hiney, etc. – again, never the same thing twice). He softened to the snaffle bit, learned to straighten, turn, yield to pressure, voice commands for walk and trot and whoa. I started riding again, from the very basics – worked a nice active walk and remedial lateral movements for close to 6 months; the trot took another 8 months. He was extremely front heavy, like he was bogged down in cement, and once ridden would brace and lean against the bit, grab it, run sideways, a number of evasions. I would soften my hands and push him forward, no easy task, and was lucky to come out of it alive each time bc I never knew where we woud end up, face down on the ground, sideways in a tree – you get the idea. His transitions were like two trains colliding and this horse, unlike any I have ever in my life encountered, can move like a verifiable slinky.
To confirm it wasn’t something I was doing, I even paid some top-notch riders (as in Grand Prix) with perfect balance and hands to work him; no difference. So I took on another training professional and we backtracked again. Once we came to the snaffle riding part again; it started all over. Yet I can free lunge him in a HUGE arena with body language and voice commands and he’s fantastic. The trainer I have now won’t ride him in a snaffle any more; he says it’s just not for Dobbin and all we do is play the hard mouthed game instead of teaching him anything. We put him back in a curb and he’s an angel. Yet I feel I have failed and am a crappy horsewoman and am obsessing about it all of the time. I’ve never encountered anything like this with any other horse and I’m not inexperienced. With the curb, it takes very little in the way of aids and seat; only when he decides to test it with something wacky like "ooh, let’s see if I can suddenly gallop sideways towards that other horse" is it used to its effect and now that behavior has been entirely eliminated.
The vet says likely nerve damage in the mouth, after watching me work him in both bits and doing an oral examination. But there is no physical evidence of that in the way of scarring or splitting. I take extraordinary care of Dobbin – regular chiropractor, top vet care, best feed, joint support supplement, massages, equine dentist. He has the best manners of any horse at the barn. I am firm, kind, fair, and when all is accomplished guilty of being a bit of a softie, but never with training or groundwork.
So, first, I’d like to compare what I’ve done with what others do to rebit, to see if something was missed.
Second, has a horse ever made you feel like your previously successful skills and techniques amount to nothing?
Third, have I failed or do I just need to stop driving myself nuts and accept he goes in a curb and that’s that?
I’m really depressed and in a major funk, so please don’t beat me up. I’ve done a dandy job of doing that myself. I even dream about it.
Oh, and Dobbin stays with me for his lifetime. He came to me not to long after my sister died tragically and our bond is strong. I credit him for giving me a reason to live and despite our training challenges, he is meant for me.
I know I’ve asked regarding different facets of this same issue previously. Thanks to all who don’t mind taking another look.
"Before" June 2004: http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2132/10980997/19777067/319268439.jpg
"After" May 2008 (Trainer riding in curb): http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2132/10980997/19777067/329506367.jpg
Alice ~ you really made me laugh. There were a few tears involved, but it was that fine line between hilarious and OMG I’m crying. I guess I’m worn thin on this issue. Yes, I do a lot of basic dressage in a western saddle now! It fits him best so why quibble, eh
Thanks for the laugh. It was well needed. It’s amazing how a horse can go from Mr. Terror to Mr. Manners!!!
Sovereign7 ~ thanks for the links!!!
Based on two good suggestions, I definitely have to revist my kimberwick(s). Yes, I have more than one! I could open my own bit store; it’s kinda ridiculous.
Rosi M ~ horses have strong opinions, don’t they! Your grey said, "No way" <spin on forehand, spin on forehand>
It does make me sad what horses endure. It never ceases to amaze me that they let any of us ride them at all. I hope in 10 years I can look back and say, "Oh I remember when Dobbin….guess I did my job after all!" Tee Hee
zephania666 ~ I really like everything you’re saying, especially the yardstick part. Need to start looking at this differently. Sometimes I just get soooo serious bc I know what should be happening in a perfect horse training world.
I am so truly appreciative of ALL of your answers. I guess I didn’t realize how badly I needed some encouragement and someone to say relax. I keep smiling and then getting teary eyed as I read these. It’s like those dratted halmark commercials.
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Well, I wouldn’t beat myself up about it. It looks to me like dobbin is a great horse, and sounds like you have and are currently doing everyrhing right. Just because he can’t go in a snaffle due to nerve dammage is no big deal. Really, its not your fault. I can understand if you feel bad for him, but you should try to stop mentally abusing yourself. You sound like a very good horsewonam and Dobbin looks happy to work in the second picture.
You are doing western, correct? Well that is what you are doing in the picture (tee hee! lateral movements in a western saddle! I do dressage and am obsessed by it!). It is perfectly fine if you are using a curb bit in western. I would know. I ride one of my friend’s horses and we tried him in a snaffle, fearing that the curb was too harsh. I almost died when he tried to run me into a tree. Well, anyway, we put the curb back in with a curb chain and he is Mr. Manners himself now.
Don’t worry, everyone has ridden that horse that makes you feel like you are an equestrian invalid. It’s not just you. You havce not failed if Dobbin is happier and healthier. That is the main thing: he is out of a horrid situation and into a wonderful one, regaurdless of bits.
I don’t think you should try the snaffle again. He is ovbiously a curb bit horse. Don’t worry about it.
Well, the moral of the story is that you are not doing anything wrong and just need to stop worrying about it. If you keep having dreams about failing, may i suggest psychotherapy?
Well, god luck with dobbin!