Comments on: Lunging aids for roundness? http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:57:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: zakiit http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-448 zakiit Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:00:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-448 I do not like "training aids" either. I would prefer to use just side reins and make sure that he is going forward and tracking up from behind. He will then naturally drop into an outline. I believe that the face should be no more than vertical to the ground and the horse should be holding the bit, ready to increase speed or come back when asked without resistance. Try correctly placed trotting poles which should help him to track up - ie his hind feet should be stepping almost into the foot prints left by the fore feet. Whatever you do don't fall for these draw reins. They need a rider with strong leg and seat aids and force a horse into an ugly, over bent way of going. Correct schooling under saddle, ie poles, many turns and circles, leg yielding will help some, I know you cannot ride him, but when the owner can that might be something to point out. And if the horse is older, it is likely that it will take some time, but I still say correct riding is the only way! I have noticed that some horses simply are not physically built to go in an outline - and who first said that they should go with arched necks? And all these training aids are a waste of money and tantamount to cruelty.<br><b>References : </b><br>Riding instructor I do not like "training aids" either.

I would prefer to use just side reins and make sure that he is going forward and tracking up from behind. He will then naturally drop into an outline. I believe that the face should be no more than vertical to the ground and the horse should be holding the bit, ready to increase speed or come back when asked without resistance. Try correctly placed trotting poles which should help him to track up – ie his hind feet should be stepping almost into the foot prints left by the fore feet.

Whatever you do don’t fall for these draw reins. They need a rider with strong leg and seat aids and force a horse into an ugly, over bent way of going.

Correct schooling under saddle, ie poles, many turns and circles, leg yielding will help some, I know you cannot ride him, but when the owner can that might be something to point out.

And if the horse is older, it is likely that it will take some time, but I still say correct riding is the only way!

I have noticed that some horses simply are not physically built to go in an outline – and who first said that they should go with arched necks? And all these training aids are a waste of money and tantamount to cruelty.
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]]> By: natural horse http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-447 natural horse Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:48:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-447 i like training horses to voice. walk trot canter (up) woow. left right. trot trot for extended. i used it for driving but great on all horses<br><b>References : </b><br> i like training horses to voice. walk trot canter (up) woow. left right. trot trot for extended. i used it for driving but great on all horses
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]]> By: Greg B http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-446 Greg B Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:20:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-446 Side reins would be good for that or some horses do better in running reins which are similar.<br><b>References : </b><br> Side reins would be good for that or some horses do better in running reins which are similar.
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]]> By: Kaiialyne S http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-445 Kaiialyne S Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:49:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-445 Most people use side-reins (http://www.statelinetack.com/Search.aspx?query=side+reins) when lunging to develop a headset and topline. I like side-reins, but they don't connect to the hind legs at all so you have to be very good about keeping the forward motion and making him step under himself. My very favorite is the Pessoa Training Aid (http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-3026&bhcd2=1250973714). It is extremely adjustable, from a low headset to a very collected one. The stretchy rubber encourages the horse to give to the pressure as opposed to holding the horse's head down. Finally, the butt strap is unbelievably helpful in making a horse use his hind legs. The downside, of course, is the price. However, I have known people to successfully making their own with rubber tubing and a regular lunging surcingle.<br><b>References : </b><br> Most people use side-reins (http://www.statelinetack.com/Search.aspx?query=side+reins) when lunging to develop a headset and topline. I like side-reins, but they don’t connect to the hind legs at all so you have to be very good about keeping the forward motion and making him step under himself.

My very favorite is the Pessoa Training Aid (http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-3026&bhcd2=1250973714). It is extremely adjustable, from a low headset to a very collected one. The stretchy rubber encourages the horse to give to the pressure as opposed to holding the horse’s head down. Finally, the butt strap is unbelievably helpful in making a horse use his hind legs. The downside, of course, is the price. However, I have known people to successfully making their own with rubber tubing and a regular lunging surcingle.
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]]> By: cloudfish http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-444 cloudfish Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:42:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-444 Like Azari said but I like the ones that have the rubber donut things on them.<br><b>References : </b><br> Like Azari said but I like the ones that have the rubber donut things on them.
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]]> By: dave s charms the ladies http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-443 dave s charms the ladies Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:03:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-443 my girlfriend says draw reins.<br><b>References : </b><br> my girlfriend says draw reins.
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]]> By: Azeri http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness/comment-page-1#comment-442 Azeri Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:35:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/lunging-aids-for-roundness#comment-442 Once he's longeing calmly at w, t, c, and is getting somewhat fit, you can start with side reins, adjusted very loosely (as in, no contact). Gradually tighten them no more than 2 holes per week, and make sure the horse is moving well forward, tracking up into the bridle. You can also long line him, treating the long lines exactly as you would reins.<br><b>References : </b><br> Once he’s longeing calmly at w, t, c, and is getting somewhat fit, you can start with side reins, adjusted very loosely (as in, no contact). Gradually tighten them no more than 2 holes per week, and make sure the horse is moving well forward, tracking up into the bridle. You can also long line him, treating the long lines exactly as you would reins.
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