Comments on: What is the best way to get a horse to frame? http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:36:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: zakiit http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame/comment-page-1#comment-613 zakiit Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:36:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame#comment-613 Do not use draw reins. Use trotting poles dotted around the arena in places where you can safely go over them or round them, ie on the diagonal, on the inside track, at so you can use them on a 20 meter circle. Sit up tall and deep in the saddle. Hold the horse between leg, seat and rein. Use the poles to get him to stretch a bit in his stride and then ride in order that when you next get over the poles he does not have to stretch so, if you were blindfolded you would not be able to feel the extra elevation. It is all about having a good rhythm and getting the horse to step under himself, tracking into or just behind the tracks of the four feet. Circles and leg yielding will also help to get the horse tracking up. Read my answer about the Rollkur debate. I have written more there and I am getting tired now.<br><b>References : </b><br>Riding instructor Do not use draw reins. Use trotting poles dotted around the arena in places where you can safely go over them or round them, ie on the diagonal, on the inside track, at so you can use them on a 20 meter circle.

Sit up tall and deep in the saddle.

Hold the horse between leg, seat and rein. Use the poles to get him to stretch a bit in his stride and then ride in order that when you next get over the poles he does not have to stretch so, if you were blindfolded you would not be able to feel the extra elevation. It is all about having a good rhythm and getting the horse to step under himself, tracking into or just behind the tracks of the four feet.

Circles and leg yielding will also help to get the horse tracking up.

Read my answer about the Rollkur debate. I have written more there and I am getting tired now.
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]]> By: charm http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame/comment-page-1#comment-612 charm Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:00:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame#comment-612 There is one huge advantage to the existence of draw reins. They help me eliminate potential trainers. ANY trainer who believes that a set of draw reins are the solution to a framing problem are automatically off my list of possible employees or associates. It would be like saying, "Oh, Sarah just isn't keeping her legs in the right position, so we are going to tie her hands behind her back!" The head isn't the key to a frame, the back and stomach and legs are the key to a frame. If your horse is framing sometimes, but not holding it, then she just needs muscled up and strengthened in that position. Work her five minutes in frame, let her stretch and relax. Add another five minutes, stretch and relax. No beginning horse should be 'forced' to carry itself in a dressage frame. In fact, most lower level dressage horses are marked down if they are flexed in front and hollow behind.<br><b>References : </b><br> There is one huge advantage to the existence of draw reins. They help me eliminate potential trainers. ANY trainer who believes that a set of draw reins are the solution to a framing problem are automatically off my list of possible employees or associates.

It would be like saying, "Oh, Sarah just isn’t keeping her legs in the right position, so we are going to tie her hands behind her back!"

The head isn’t the key to a frame, the back and stomach and legs are the key to a frame. If your horse is framing sometimes, but not holding it, then she just needs muscled up and strengthened in that position. Work her five minutes in frame, let her stretch and relax. Add another five minutes, stretch and relax. No beginning horse should be ‘forced’ to carry itself in a dressage frame. In fact, most lower level dressage horses are marked down if they are flexed in front and hollow behind.
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]]> By: sunshinegirl http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame/comment-page-1#comment-611 sunshinegirl Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:11:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame#comment-611 get a new trainer and throw away the draw reins!!!!<br><b>References : </b><br> get a new trainer and throw away the draw reins!!!!
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]]> By: sazzy http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame/comment-page-1#comment-610 sazzy Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:43:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame#comment-610 Time and patience. Correct training does not need gadgets, and I stick by my opinion that draw reins do not help a horse at all. I ride a horse at my yard, who has been trained to go into an outline using draw reins, he goes so easily on the forehand and the use of draw reins haven't helped him use himself properly, he tends to move very bunched up - because the draw reins never allowed him to move freely and now he finds it hard to. If he'd not been trained with draw reins, chances are he would have become far more free moving. Going into an outline takes time, it's not achieved in five minutes. In order for a horse to go into a consistent outline, then they need to have built the muscles to do it - which can't be achieved by gadgets. Also if this horse is in training, chances are she's not balanced enough to stay in the frame and move correctly all the time. Top dressage horses take years and years to achieve their ability, it does not happen over night.<br><b>References : </b><br> Time and patience.
Correct training does not need gadgets, and I stick by my opinion that draw reins do not help a horse at all.
I ride a horse at my yard, who has been trained to go into an outline using draw reins, he goes so easily on the forehand and the use of draw reins haven’t helped him use himself properly, he tends to move very bunched up – because the draw reins never allowed him to move freely and now he finds it hard to. If he’d not been trained with draw reins, chances are he would have become far more free moving.
Going into an outline takes time, it’s not achieved in five minutes. In order for a horse to go into a consistent outline, then they need to have built the muscles to do it – which can’t be achieved by gadgets. Also if this horse is in training, chances are she’s not balanced enough to stay in the frame and move correctly all the time.
Top dressage horses take years and years to achieve their ability, it does not happen over night.
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]]> By: Amanda http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame/comment-page-1#comment-609 Amanda Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:11:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame#comment-609 Please don't use draw-reins. And don't go back to the trainer that recommended them. The fact is, if your horse is forward (not fast) and straight, your tack fits well, and you sit well, your horse *will* stretch into the bridle (aka be in a frame). So you need to do a little analysis to figure out which of those things is missing. Good luck!<br><b>References : </b><br>www.DempseyTraining.com Please don’t use draw-reins. And don’t go back to the trainer that recommended them. The fact is, if your horse is forward (not fast) and straight, your tack fits well, and you sit well, your horse *will* stretch into the bridle (aka be in a frame). So you need to do a little analysis to figure out which of those things is missing. Good luck!
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]]> By: Lester http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame/comment-page-1#comment-608 Lester Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:51:59 +0000 http://www.horseridingtraining.net/horse-training-aids/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-a-horse-to-frame#comment-608 Take a picture of it.<br><b>References : </b><br> Take a picture of it.
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